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Regarding the dis­cus­sion on mak­ing GNOME fun, I guess I don’t really see any par­tic­u­lar argu­ment. It appears as though there are sev­eral goals which pur­port to compete:

• Allow non-C lan­guages into the desk­top release.
• Improve the devel­oper platform.
• Write an appli­ca­tion suite which shows off GNOME’s sexiness.
• Integrate new tech into the desk­top release as it becomes avail­able (D-BUS, Cairo, etc.).

I’ll add

• Work on the “First-level objects” UI.

to the list of things that’ll poten­tially “revi­tal­ize” GNOME/make it fun again. Really the only thing that makes any­thing fun is work­ing together with peo­ple you can work with towards a com­mon goal, so I’ll bow out and say “why don’t we do all these things.” I per­son­ally care about a rain­ing of fire and brim­stone which ends up with an plat­form (and bind­ings) that are wor­thy of being called “a CLR to beat .NET,” (Fortunately for me, I’m not smart enough to do it all by myself, and really need to quit school and get a job, but that’s what I’d like to see/do myself). Mikael wants to have a GNOME API that’s sim­pler to grasp (name­spacing and doc­u­men­ta­tion). Havoc cares about an appli­ca­tions suite that’ll do (effec­tively) what AppleWorks did for MacOS. Edd and Todd want some­thing to paint with other than C.

So we now have peo­ple who have pub­licly stated that they care about the devel­op­ment plat­form, the doc­u­men­ta­tion, the apps, and the bind­ings? (I per­son­ally think the “first-level object” UI is a great idea which effec­tively stretches across the plat­form and the apps, and UI good­ies can be filled in with the things Miguel men­tioned.) What’s not kick­ass about that? What’s not to love? How is this not the coolest thing ever? Go local sports team and/or col­lege! Yeah! Woooo!

I’m also rea­son­ably pleased I’m not the only one on PGO to men­tion May Day.